Patricia: You may ask the questions, my son, regarding the source of the book. These are important questions. You must understand that with the motive of clarity, you may ask questions that Patricia has not been able to ask or was afraid to ask.
Bruce: Thank you. In trying to understand the source of the material the books are coming from...
Patricia: Yes...
Bruce: The first question is, are you the ultimate Source of all and is there no greater awareness than you? Or are you a portion of that with equal awareness?
Patricia: Yes... It is a difficult question to answer. The book on Karmic Debt will clarify some of that question. The language is very difficult to deal with for in your language, you have assumed that partial is separate from a partial that is adjacent to it when it is all a flowing whole as individuals are a flowing whole and that a partial awareness is inter meshed with all the other "partial awarenesses" and like the salt in the stew is not separate from the stew. You will see that awareness is awareness like love is love and when it is felt, it is a universal truth. One does not experience a different grade of love from another and when they love, they share the same reality. The events surrounding that reality are different, by the reality is the same and is not measurable, that is you cannot measure love by saying, "I love three liters or five liters of love." You love. It is a separate state of consciousness from, for example, the state of consciousness you went through when you worked out your income tax, my son. But, to continue with the understanding of the source. The Source is not Patricia in any way for she is only a channel for that and was chosen because her motives were truly pure and she truly would not abuse it in any way. She has had many opportunities in her lifetime to abuse power and has never chosen to do so. Because of that she became a channel for a separate state of consciousness from a world of fear. The Source is from what is termed the "spiritual universe" throughout the book. It is like a ray of sunlight that is energy and is not limited to the interaction on the plant that is produced in photosynthesis. But the photosynthesis is the effect and so the Source is universal light, but the photosynthesis that is occurring is the book itself and the communication from that Source. Light has its own character and is universal so you could say that the Source is Universal Light. This does not answer your question. If you wish to go back to the specifics of your question, you may.
Bruce: It is then is (uh) the...excuse me.
Patricia: Okay
Bruce: Back up. This Universal Light which is the Source could be termed the Ultimate Source.
Patricia: Yes, it could be termed the Ultimate Source, but it is not. There is no Ultimate Source. There is a interplay, even within the earth of life, but each life has its own expression. In this case, what you are dealing with is the expression of that light. A tree will express that light in a separate way from a verbal expression and in this particular case it is needed as homo sapian and verbal communication and on this plane it is the clearest that can be expressed given the limitations s urrounding you. You must understand that this is just one plane of existence and love is a hint of the nature of God, but is not the totality of God and what is you are exploring at this point is the broad sense of God which is a hint like the analogy of the rock and the mountain. The rock is not the mountain, but it has characteristics of the mountain and certainly is worth looking at in order to study what could conceivably be a mountain. When you look at the rock, you cannot envision the size, and shape, and depth, and breadth, and life support system that a mountain truly is, however it is a very broad attempt to understand the breadth that you are dealing with. Infinity is characteristic of God, but not understandable at this time on this plane.
Bruce: Well, I understand that, but in this---through this material, we are tapping an aspect of infinity.
Patricia: Yes, you are and within your larger being, you understand that as those who are ready, will understand that as well. This is frightening to Patricia. She can face this as well.
Bruce: Are you then essentially the same Source that channeled through Edgar Casey?
Patricia: Yes, but the perspective is different.
Bruce: I understand. And the same Source that channeled the Course in Miracles?
Patricia: Yes, I am.
Bruce: Would you be then Charlotte's source?
Patricia: Yes, I will.
Bruce: How should we address you?
Patricia: You cannot. You cannot name feelings and this is very important that you not find a name.
Charlotte: A name would place a limitation.
Patricia: Yes, it would.
Bruce: Fine---
Patricia: It would also, for those who are living in a world of fear, allow them to harm those who are continuing this very important work and it is important that there be protection for those who are working on this. It is critical. Casey used terms that he knew would allow people to shuff off the source comfortably and yet listen to the work and it is important that you do the same.
Bruce: Good. I understand. Al Miner in Florida channels a source which is a grouping of entities know as "La Masing."
Patricia: Yes.
Bruce: What is the difference between "La Masing" as a source and you as a source.
Patricia: There is no technical difference. If one can use the term "multiple personalities" or as the source, then it is much more acceptable to a world of fear for it understandable to other individuals that its used then people are not afraid of that source. The term '"spiritual universe" has frequently been used in the automatic writing and has been used also the term "soul mate" within a larger sense. That is similar to what La Masing is using. It is, however, limiting itself by limiting its source. And is functional, because if the source is limited when one is dealing with a limited reality and fearful, then it is more acceptable to those who listen and you cannot communicate until you are able to communicate with individuals where they are. La Masing's motive are pure and you will see that the motives of the heart are truly all that allows a channel to occur. You feel still that you need more information, my son. You could listen to the tape and formulate then further questions. And it is acceptable to formulate questions that would relate to those specifically dealing with what we have termed a world of fear and answer the questions from that basis, but it is important in these books to not limit the source within your own minds to a personality or a groupings of personalities for that would limit what is being communicated as well and it is very important as this time to supersede a sense of personality.
Bruce: I understand.
Patricia: Yes, you do.
Bruce: Is it you of whom Christ spoke when he said we should love God with all our heart, body, mind, and soul and our neighbors as ourselves?
Patricia: It is not I, it is within the individual. There is a difficult communication that must take place in this area. It is the Christ within that is to be loved and when the Christ within, as Jesus understood, is loved, there is a direct link with what has been traditionally called God and then the individual understands all that he or she needs to understand and naturally loves what has been traditionally called God, but it is not possible to do so without the use of the white light at this point and loving the Christ within the individual and not loving a defined sense of God, but more discovering what exists once that link is established. The idea of loving God as the Biblical admonition gives is loving a preconception of what God is and like a child learning to walk, the child truly does not understand at the point that he or she learns to walk what walking is but finds delight in the process, so when you love the Christ within you, and it cannot be emphasized enough that the Christ exists within all life---when you love the Christ within you then you go through the process of learning to walk not knowing where the walking process is leading you, but you will discover more and more aspects of my being, my son. This is again difficult to answer because there are few words in this language that express the feeling experienced when this occurs. It is not that you should love God. It is that you cannot help doing and like a plant processing sunlight---it is not that the plant should process sunlight. It is the life of the plant. And I am your life.
Bruce: Thank you. That is very, very helpful.
Patricia: Yes, I understand that there are terms that are still needed to clarify this sense of source and it is important that the questions continue to be asked regarding the Source. Patricia is frightened by it and so asks the same questions frequently relating to her fear, but it will not clarify the Source, but it will ease her fears.
Bruce: As I understand it, another analogy might be (yes) spiritual universe might represent in such terms, a huge reservoir of water and various individuals can tap that through a pipe leading to that reservoir.
Patricia represents, and others do too, such as Al Miner and so the knowledge becomes available to those who are seeking to the degree that they can comprehend within their language and dimensional understanding.
Patricia: Yes and to the degree that they can overcome what they have been taught by an introduction into a world of fear. In time, the pipe will not be needed at all and the reservoir will be tapped by everyone. And, that is the goal that the individual understands.
Bruce: Would the transition from the world of fear to the world of love be the equivalent of the individual becoming Christ? Patricia: We will clarify much of that for that is not clear within the text itself, my son. This is not easy for you yet to understand and you will need exposure to the process involved. You will become comfortable with the readings very soon. Barbara is here and is supporting Pat metaphysically as she was before. Please ask the next question.
Bruce: If all is good and all is God, then why is the "World of Fear" necessary
Patricia: It is not now. It was a survival system that allowed for an evolution that had its day. It is a difficult concept but can be translated into the terms "definition by antithesis," that is understanding what is by what is its opposite. With the knowledge of what is, there was always a light in the room of darkness like a crack in the door or a seam in a wall or whatever. There is no absolute darkness anywhere, my son. It will seem difficult for you and Charlotte to initially learn about the use of Pat as a channel, but she will help you in many ways that you will not be conscious of and will never hurt you in any way. You may ask the next question.
Bruce: The book discourages the study of the concepts in groups. It is my feeling that the concepts would be well worthwhile to study by an individual. Is that okay?
Patricia: It is to be done because you wish to, my son, and is not a directive but like all ideas is not a limited idea. It is a general feeling that when groups are formed, a social group begins and when one truly explores alone and receives ideas from others, but when you are in the present time, you are not interacting with social groups. You are with me and, in fact, social groups occur essentially in the past, as does language. This is difficult to understand and when the third book is written, you will better understand the necessity for not having groups, but you can do whatever you choose for you are always being led and if you feel comfortable, you should study. You may ask the next question.
Bruce: Thank you. You said Barbara is here.
Patricia: Yes, she is my beloved, beloved daughter and will never be hurt, nor will Pat by her leaving. She will visit Pat when she needs the help to cope with her own transition and will love her through this period of difficulty into a period of great joy, My Children. Barbara will help with the editing. It is not unnatural to help edit for Barbara for she is physically not from this school, but one can always return to a classroom without it being unnatural and will return as a support and essentially guest lecturer to the classroom. She has left and essentially graduated but can help Pat now much more that she did before is. You will all better understand the soul-mate concept when the third book is written. (When there is no need to control others, the male and female is not that important. The only threat of male and female as with orthodox churches is the fear of lack of control, but that fear will dissipate for those who are truly ready for it to.)